Hi! I really like what you have going on with the first logo. I suggest maybe keeping the top one with the colors of the third one and moving the beak up as to hold a circular dot at the top of the beak implying a small ball in balance. Making it a bit more playful and active.
I love that you built something out from the W.
At second look I also really like the third one. But, because it is two distinctly different colors I keep seeing a sideways y rather than a K coming from the m. maybe the color from m to k needs to be more gradual? Gradient across word?
Well, those are my suggestions. I have to admit my knowledge of what is considered tacky or not I fall a bit short with.
Best of Luck!
I love the first logo too - and if a comment counts from an Aussie the green is more eye catching than the blue. I think the Kiwi bird is a clever way of integrating the word Kiwi visually instead of just "dumping" it around the logo.
Well done!
This is really good work, and its clear you are very experienced. I love the colours and the contrast and as a designer I can see where you are going with this, I imagine less technical folks wouldn't get it instantly.
I like the first one the best.
Hi Phil, thanks for the vote of confidence! means alot. Really appreciate the positive feedback!
Love the first one ...
I got the kiwi and the fern right away ... and I'm from Dallas, TX, USA.
My only suggestion would be to use the blue instead of the green on the first one!
As an non-NZ native, these are my initial reactions:
1) The Kiwi and Fern Leaf mean nothing to me as a USA citizen. And I personally don't see the relationship between either of them and swimming products. But, that isn't necessarily bad. If you're targeting the NZ market, it should help.
2) That said, I don't think the Kiwi bird works at all with the logo. The last variation where the leaf is integrated with the M & K works best. It is simple, which I believe works best.
3) I'd suggest trying to attach the leaf - same style as your last revision - to the 'i' at the end of the logo. With the K being half hidden by the M, and the first I in Kiwi having such little presence underneath the leaf, everything gets kind of busy in the middle. I still like it, but who knows - maybe that will help.
4) Finally, turn your logo to simple black and white (not grayscale - only black and white). This will ensure that your logo is effective in all mediums at its simplest form. Also when you do this, make the logo very small to see how readable it still is. It will help clean up some of the small lines.
And if it matters, I like the green in the first example over blue. :) Great logo!
Firstly, i really appreciate all the feedback ive had from everyone on here, much more than i had expected, absolutely fantastic. Also, thank you Eric for your very in depth review. Your right, the logo's main market is New Zealand, so it shouldnt really need to make any connection to anyone overseas, i guess it just needs to be reviewed from a "visually attractive" standpoint. I will be taking in everything you have suggested and talking it over as possible ideas with the client. Cheers!
I really like No 1 an number 4.
I like one because of the incorporation of the images, and also the Paua (not sure of spelling) reference with the green.
I think I prefer them because they're tighter together and streamline.
Something which comes in handy when swimming!
I like where this is going but I`d suggest 99designs perhaps to explore a different shape love the letter type
I have added this to my favorites.
This is a gorgeous, fresh, logo with beautiful curves and excellent balance. The bird and Fern are clever and beautifully implemented.
This logo was well thought out and executed. It is not a co-op out clip-art logo. The gradient is great.
Hi Jennifer, im flattered, thank you! Love this site already, great people with really constructive feedback.
Really, it's the best one IMO
personally, i'd go for the 4th one. :D
The last one is best - but on white surfaces apply the color treatment from #2 to the type. I actually think the typestyle and color treatment can even stand on its own, without a mark.
I have no idea about Kiwis and New Zealand - so my opinions are specifically addressing design, not brand approach.
Your kiwi logo has bowled me. I think its a 6 SIXEs in an over when I saw the first logo. Great work mate.
I think you must give the gradient look (blue & not green used in the logo-1) to SWIM text.
Blue gradient for SWIM as its associated with water.
KIWI text should be white.
Just a suggestion based on fact thet New Zealanders are called BLACK CAPS. So I guess your national word should be Black on white or White on Black.
Hi Ananda, your obviously into your cricket! cheers for the positive review, logical thinking on the colours, another great idea to propose to client, i think this meetings going to be half a day!
Great job Zac,
I like how you used the colour. I think it will fit perfectly in digital formats, it will be fine for paper, and probably will need simplification for textile.
I love that the kiwi grows from the W, and altough the Kiwi is not the most stereotipical bird :) it is recognizable, yet looking a bit weird with the fern in the back. As other people said, it might not be recognizable for many people outside NZ (although I'm form Spain and I got it.... but it might help that I like NZ and the All Blacks). I must say I dont like the second logo (whit ewith fern). I think the silouette where the fern is, doesn't look good. The same for version 3.
The last version is definitely my choice: the simpler, yet with a national touch. Being picky, I would take a look at the connection of the S and W, and the kern: maybe a tinny bit more space between characters would make it better (the white background version looks better for me)
really great work and engagement of identity and text
try incorporate the kiwi symbol more into the swimkiwi name, also I think you are tryng too hard to bring the bird and the silver fearn leaf into the logo. I feel the bird might need to go, no connection to swimming and not internationally recognised as a NZ property whereas the fern is more so
Ive just added another concept that are along the lines of what you suggested. Perhaps this one's a bit more internationally kiwi?
My favorite option n1 excellent resolution, the work you did with the kiwi and w is very good, I'm not sure of the peak, which is half as annoying and as a final solution gradient. Good job!
I really like the fonts and background and back lighting looks great.
These look great... especially the 1st one - it's good how you have subtly got the fern in there
Good font, good icon, good color and good typography...
Nice job! Although I like more the blue one :)
I think the forth one looks fantastic. Of the four it is the most simple, but it is effective. Great work.
i like your concepts a lot!
to be honest i can almost see a new direction with the first design. you have used the kiwi and the silver fern leaf to form a new sea creature: a sea kiwi. much like a sea horse. the makings of a unique approach are there.
barring that i think design #2 using JUST the silver fern leaf is clear enough. i would remove the shape and keep it simple.
try to imagine with the fern/kiwi would look like from 5-10m away on a t-shirt or on a baseball cap.
i think the leaf alone is strong enough to carry the unique look. it's not only a leaf but a wave as well.
I really like the concept and design and colors of the first logo.
Strong and identifiable brand 'look' going on here, with my favorite of them all as your first on display.
The "Silver Fern Leaf" i think might be better server just a skoach larger, perhaps with a tad more flourish? Not much, on either account, just a bit, a tad, a "skoach"
As to the color accent, I think for branded-use/simplicity, I would opt for the 'green' as a solid, probably of the hue/value displayed in the left-stroke of the W.
Nice work Zac.
Hi Michael, totally get where your coming from, I've created another option with these ideas for the client to check out. I'm going to use "skoach" too from now on, haha.
Great design but ... Is this for a swimming product brand?
Don't get me wrong, everything looks very nice, with great attention to detail. It's just the engagement and "target".
Who looks at first for the logo doesn't really understand it.
But great design non the less!
I think it is the best out of all
I really love the color schemes, the gradients, the very light accenting backgrounds. I think the design is generally very clean.
I want to love the iconography, but it doesn't feel quite right yet. My brain is expecting to see a kiwi fruit somewhere in the iconography, and since kiwis are pretty unique but symbolic of New Zealand (as you've pointed out) I wonder if mostly only New Zealanders will "get" the iconography.
Since the product is for swimwear, perhaps the iconography should contain something more swimming related than NZ-specific related. I'm sure they wouldn't mind if their products became internationally appreciated products, right? How about a silhouette of a swimmer?
I'm very impressed with your design talent!
Go for it
Love the first one
Great design. I like the bottom one best.
I think the first one, with the kiwi logo, is a bit slow to catch. Takes a moment to realize it's a Kiwi, separate the beak from the text... I dunno, it's a cumbersome logo in my opinion :)
The second logo works good. It has a nice symbol + text combination which I like, but the third logo combines both of these in one element, which is even better.
That's why I vote no. 3. Good job!
I like the color and the way to the logo stands out. great work!.
I really like the first and second just based on design and color. You definitely want to communicate the brand to your audience and simple is good. I think the second one would work best since the color ties in with the aquatic aspect, but the green is cool too. It all comes down to you cause you really have some amazing choices.
I really like it . There are all good , but the first one i think its better, but may be you can change the color of "KIWI" to blue like the other ones, but i really like it.
Number four with the fern leaf is definatley the best. Go with the blue, everboy uses green nowerdays.
My favourite is first one no doubt about it. Straight away I get New Zealand Swimming. Thats all I need to know and the look makes the product, website, etc look very flash.
Good work!
My favorite is the fourth one.
Nice work on illustrating the leaf to connect and flow with the text. Also showing where the words split. Although the blue signifies water, might want to try a little mix of cyan to separate it from looking like the "sky" and more of the "ocean" color. Otherwise great use of typography
Perfect.
I like no 4 it's perfect ,you might also try to change the blue a little bit darker
Well, I LOVE the first one, except I'm not quite seeing the bird figure. Probably because I don't know what it looks like. But I love the color and font. It stands out for sure.
As far as the actual symbol goes I think the way in which you incoporate the leaf image on the last one is great.
Consider what "material" this logo is going to be on. Will the two middle ones have too much detail? (i'm thinking swimsuites, flippers and rubber swim caps.)
the colors are great, I really like the green in the first one. That is my favorite
Looks good, but the text should probably be distorted to accommodate the fish coming out of it.
Most people understand the Kiwi is from NZ. I would drop the Fern. Looks like a bad tail. Looks fantastic coming out of the 'W'. Great Concept.
i love this design very original, however i would just change the color from the green type to the same colors you used on the fourth design, the blue looks better. but on the whole very nice design
i like first one, but if you can change to bright colors u used in end.. otherwise. it is a great design for me
Love what you are doing with the last logo though I'd probably move the K away from the m and have it independent.
I just LOVE this first one!
Very nice/ The first and the last are both very good. the name is weird but the work is great/
the last id\s great take it.
I see where you were going with the kiwi bird, but to me it's counter-intuitive to use a bird that can't swim for the identity of a swimwear brand.
I like the last one the best. The type is great. Although, I think i would like the one above it better if you got rid of the fan-shaped object and just made the silver fern bigger and I think it would be a good idea to make the fern look both like waves in the ocean and a fern.
I honestly don't know the relationship between the "bird" (is that a bird) and swim.
It's a native New Zealand bird that has no wings, quite often us new Zealanders are reffered to as kiwis and it's our national icon, so thats all it's supposed to represent. http://kiwifoundation.org.nz/image/kiwi-011.jpg
You learn something new every day. Good luck with your project. You are very talented!
It's ok, not fantastic.
A really great start Zac, I think you just need to make a few refinements.
No.1 is my favourite. If it were my project, here's what I'd look at:
If it really must stay, try incorporating leaf growth around the final i, after modifying kiwi as below.
The Bird. Try facing him in the opposite direction coming out of the second W. His beak would touch the tip of the first i, rather than crossing into the type. Don't modify the arms of the W until the bird outline forms above the letter. The current thinning towards the top looks a bit naff.
Typography. I would modify the S slightly so that the top and bottom were completely horizontal to the base line ie. straighten out the curves.
Colour. First, ensure the whole design works properly in B&W without any gradients. Then, while I prefer the green, it's not really water. So I'd look at blending both blue and green into more of a "deep ocean" kind of gradient, providing it works on the charcoal bkgnd.
Finally, I would advise your client that KIWIswim is an easier idea to grasp and say than SWIMkiwi.
Hope this helps.
Generally I like it. Honestly though, when I read Kiwi I think of the fruit first. I am also not real sure what it is selling - swimming Kiwi Birds?
good work! (i see the kiwi, and got it, any NZ'er would get it, so if that's your target audience. hey, that about using the Tuatara!? haha)
THE LAST ONE!!! wow. i think you may have just nailed it. although you would have been elevated to status of a design god if you had used the tuatara !
Ok, I now have a new favorite since I last seen this! I like the fourth one down.